The evening Inbox wonders what the average age of an Atari fan is, as another reader comes out in favour of subscription-based consoles.
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I know there’s reasons to be cautious but I can’t help but be excited for the Destiny 2 beta starting this week. Even though I admit all the flaws and problems with the game, and how Bungie handled it, I’m really looking forward to the new one. I hope we get a chance to see how the new patrols work and that the new enemies make a difference even if they’re not new races.
It’s easy to get cynical about new releases I find, but at the end of the day gaming is all about the fun you have playing them and I’ve rarely had more fun than with Destiny. A lot of that is due to the social aspect, but I don’t think this should be seen as a negative. I’ve had many of most memorable gaming experiences just messing about with friends. So while the gameplay didn’t technically have anything to do with it, that didn’t spoil my enjoyment.
That’s not to say I wouldn’t like to see some major changes and improvements in Destiny 2, but I will settle for it just being fun.
Taken for a ride
So I’m all set for the Destiny 2 beta. I didn’t pre-order the game but bought a code off eBay for £1. Can you believe (I bet you can) that some people are selling the codes for £10.99 a piece!
Anyway, I have no doubt that Destiny 2 will turn out to be a very good game and when the reviews come in I guess they’ll mostly be in the consensus of ‘this is what Destiny 1 should have been from the beginning’.
The only thing I’m concerned about is their DLC model, which for the first game was absolutely atrocious.
First, they had a season pass which most people assumed would include all future DLC but only included the first two expansions. Then they had The Taken King which you could not buy separately, so if you had been a loyal fan from the beginning and bought all previous content, you still had to pay about £40 for content you already had and The Taken King expansion by itself wasn’t worthy of that price.
But even worse, if you decided you didn’t want The Taken King but still wanted to play Destiny you were screwed as most of the content that was previously available (and that you’d already paid for) was locked off.
I quit Destiny after The Taken King so I don’t know what the situation was with the subsequent DLC but I don’t want to begin my Destiny 2 journey only to feel (if I may use a phrase that’s become popular due to a certain programme) mugged off later!
PsillyPseudonym (PsillySeudonym – gamertag)
An Ataribox? Now there is something I never expected to see! Although it already manages to look like a scam by them not actually showing anything but the box itself. If anyone thinks this is going to have the power of PlayStation 4 or anything close to that I think they want to have a word with themselves?
Although is there even such a thing as Atari fanboys any more? To be one you’d have to be well into your 40s by now and I would’ve thought that by that point you’d either grown out of it or realised there are other much better games you could play now.
I always think of the main ones as coin-ops anyway, so I really don’t know who this is aimed at. But you’re right, it is a nice looking console – or two.
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Picked up StarBlood Arena for £14 and I’m really enjoying it. I heard the price has been slashed on the US store so hopefully the UK will get a price cut soon, as it deserves to do well. The only gripes I have with it is the arenas can feel a bit samey. It would have been cool if they had some flat levels in small space cities or around space stations.
Also, I am not a fan of perks and upgrades. I get why gamers want/like this but I don’t get to play much and I always feel like I’m at a disadvantage. I would like games to have a stripped back mode with no perks/upgrades and would give everyone the same random character/ship or car for a level playing field.
I miss the days of Halo 3 and GRID where it was just about skill. Maybe I’m just getting too old for online!
It’s fantastic to see all the love for Metal Gear again. I recently replayed Snake Eater on my PS Vita while away on holiday. I didn’t have fond memories of it and had the HD collection for years but only replayed Sons Of Liberty. Younger me clearly had no taste because it’s amazing. I think at the time I found it too challenging, with the loss of the radar and introduction of the sonar and the motion detector.
I managed to get Guns Of The Patriots for £1 in my local CeX and it’s probably the best £1 I ever spent, and has now become my favourite of the series. I hadn’t played it before as I was an Xbox 360 guy at the time. What I loved the most is when The Phantom Pain came out I really felt like I was done with Metal Gear as a series, and had no desire to play it. Now I have spent all Monday morning at work day dreaming of playing it, as I got cheap in the PSN sale.
I would be interested to know if this has ever happened with you or any other readers? Has something made you love a series or particular game again when the love was lost?
Currently playing: Metal Gear, Resident Evil 7, and Mad Max
Worth committing to
RE: DarKerR. I agree that developers and console manufacturers need to keep looking at the whole purchase model, as the current system seems so confusing for occasional players. I can see the argument that many people don’t want to ‘commit’ to subscriptions but if they see the benefits and give it time then I can see it happening. For example, I scoffed at Amazon Prime, Asos Premier, Netflix, and Spotify – but now use and love all of them! I can get what I want quickly, conveniently and at a good price. I also get loads of offers and exclusives.
For example, in music, I used to spend probably £50 a month on CDs for 10-20 years to get three or four albums. Now I spend £15 a month for me and all my family to get unlimited music and I’ve discovered LOADS of great music I would never had stumbled across if I was buying each album at point of consumption. This is good for the music industry, smaller artists, and me.
Imagine paying for the ‘Platinum’ service as DarKer suggests, where you get ‘free’ games like you do now on Gold, but free unlimited access to say all games ever made which are (for arguments’ sake) over six months old. I’m not sure if bundling with films and music is a good idea as people often have separate subscriptions to these already and wouldn’t want to pay again. But if I could explore old Xbox One games, Xbox 360 games, and Arcade games then surely it’s good for developers and the overall gaming community.
I think if manufacturers charged say, £40 a month for this (and no separate XL or PSN cost) their overall revenues would increase, and us gamers would be playing more games. Everyone wins!
Brando M83 (gamertag)
Amiga – SNES – Game Gear – Dreamcast – 3DO + optional PlayStation 3
Sounds a great beasty from my experience of having owned most consoles and other systems from the 80s to present day!
When will it be realised?!
This past weekend’s Hot Topic was very interesting and I wasn’t surprised to see an N64 Mini mentioned several times. In fact, most seemed to think it was a certainty. But has anyone actually played an N64 recently, and I mean on a 32″+ TV? The graphics really have not aged well and stretched across huge screens it all just looks worse. We’ve seen that some of the NES and SNES games have timeless graphics, but this can’t be said of the N64. Sure, you’d spend five minutes playing some of the games and you wouldn’t care about the graphics, but GoldenEye’s control scheme will really frustrate you after decades of dual sticks.
I read online someone proposing Nintendo to include their 3DS remasters of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time and Majora’s Mask, but the whole point of these mini consoles is that it’s the original games, right?
Personally, despite adoring the N64, I just think a mini version would disappoint lots of people. I don’t see how any Rare game could appear – why would Microsoft allow it? – and who knows who’s got the Bond license now anyway.
If it happens, I think it will be all Nintendo-related games. Something like: Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Mario Party, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Super Smash Bros., Zelda: Ocarina Of Time, Zelda: Majora’s Mask, F-Zero X, Star Fox 64, Wave Race 64.
GC: Those are all valid concerns. Although Star Fox 2 is a key draw for the Mini SNES, and the 3D graphics, and controls, of that era are even worse.
This week’s Hot Topic
The subject for this weekend’s Inbox was suggested by reader Xane and asks what’s the most disappointed you’ve ever been by a video game?
What game were you really looking forward to but ended up disliking? Was it because the advertising or reviews were misleading or did you just find out it wasn’t for you? Had you liked previous games in the series, or other similar titles, or were you taking a chance on something new?
Have you ever started liking a game but ended up disliking it after a short time? Generally how long do you give a game before giving up? And how willing would you say you are to try things that you’re not guaranteed to like?
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